Listening To Angry Atheists

July 23rd, 2008

It’s been an interesting thing to see how the Catholic Church’s “World Youth Day” (perhaps something of a misnomer given that it’s pretty much about Catholics, and runs for about 5 days) has brought out the angry atheists (as distinct from the calm atheists) into the opinion sections of the newspapers and blogs. The temptation is to dismiss the rants without consideration, as the product of a hater, but if we instead actually engage with our accusers, we can find some real gems. Take the following:

It’s been a revelation to me a year since my “epiphany”. I feel as if I’m walking through life with the blinkers off. Suddenly all the religious mumbo-jumbo jumps out as so bonkers. Wearing certain things, eating certain things, mumbling certain things at certain times so some imaginary friend will let you into a club in the sky when you die. I want to do my living now, thanks. I’m not afraid of dying. I’m afraid of never having lived.

Red hot enlightenment led me to believe in one fewer god | theage.com.au

Now, that quote comes from Catherine Deveney, The Age’s resident angry atheist columnist, and it comes from an article which, while calm and logical, is fairly damning and aggressive towards religion and more specifically Christianity. But have a read of that again, and imagine that instead of being in a newspaper, this popped up on the blog of an emerging churcher.It fits, and it works, and I fervently believe that there’s a really big truth for us there.

Because if our Christianity is primarily about being let into “a club in the sky when you die”, then we find ourselves at odds with the man who was about bringing “life to the full”. Then (from the same article), there’s the following quote - which in a round-about way, pretty much makes my point:

I don’t care what people believe in, but I do care that religion impacts on political discourse, public policy and that it stunts the ability of people to think for themselves and question. And that it kills people and causes suffering. But most of all I care that the invisible electric fences that are wired in the minds of children brainwashed by religion are difficult to remove. And impossible if you don’t even know they’re there.

When we shut ourselves off from people we disagree with - we become exactly that: brainwashers. But instead, if we truly have faith that we have something true in our chasing after God, and are able to listen and even converse (rather than ignore and argue), then we will find that sometimes, there is God even in the argument of the atheist.

Listen, consider, weigh up and you just might grow.

6 Responses to “Listening To Angry Atheists”

  1. Mark E Says:

    enticing post….I believe strongly that Christians should interact with and in no way be afraid of listening to those with radically different views…to the point of buying and reading their books. We have nothing to be afraid of.

    From a pastoral point of view, many athiests are angry…e.g. Dawkins. Why is that?

    From a parental point of view….Atheists “brainwash” their kids just as much as I can.

    I feel angry A would be better to be specific…much great and loving things have been done for the world’s poor in the name of Christ. How much has been done by those professing their love for Marx?

  2. geoff Says:

    Yeah - I take what you’re saying Mark, but I’m not sure I want to use the behaviour of actions committed “in the name of Christ” as my lead argument. There have been some pretty nasty things in the name of our Lord as well. And part of my problem is that as soon as we’re having a conversation about these things, for some reason is automatically becomes an argument.

    I firmly believe that I hold some of the truth about God, truth that can set my atheist friends free. But I also believe that there is truth in some of what these people are saying, and if I argue instead of discuss; I miss that.

  3. Mike Says:

    First visit to your blog. Nice to meet you.

  4. Ruth Says:

    Really refreshing read Geoff. If only a lot more christians could adopt this view. I watched/read about the World Youth Day with a lot of interest. It always intrigues me to notice how people jump on a for or against bandwagon during these kinds of things and don’t often question why.

  5. geoff Says:

    Thanks Mike and Ruth - nice to see some new people commenting here!

  6. Mark E Says:

    I totally agree about the listening and learning….Local cult buster Adrian Van Leen (who I dont always agree with) said something on the radio the other day about reading widely….because we can learn a lot, even from those we vehemently disagree with.

    There is also a time to dialogue….argument is a strong word…and not one I would use for how I might interact with people with opposing views.

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