Comments on: National Disgrace http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/ politics ~ theology ~ life ~ fart jokes Mon, 21 Nov 2011 04:47:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aurelius http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-13251 Aurelius Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:57:46 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-13251 Hope you've seen the latest on this one Geoff? The Courts have thrown out Andrews' withdrawal of the visa... Hope you’ve seen the latest on this one Geoff?
The Courts have thrown out Andrews’ withdrawal of the visa…

]]> By: geoff http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-11405 geoff Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:07:13 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-11405 But John a democratic society doesn't just lock people up on "what if's", we allow people their freedom unless they have committed an offence. And while your comment is absolutely correct: the judiciary is not always right, but they are independent. They are not making their decisions on what is likely to see them get re-elected, they are making their decisions on the evidence presented to them. We have courts of appeal for when the judiciary gets it wrong, not politicians. But John a democratic society doesn’t just lock people up on “what if’s”, we allow people their freedom unless they have committed an offence. And while your comment is absolutely correct: the judiciary is not always right, but they are independent. They are not making their decisions on what is likely to see them get re-elected, they are making their decisions on the evidence presented to them. We have courts of appeal for when the judiciary gets it wrong, not politicians.

]]> By: John http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-11396 John Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:32:10 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-11396 Look at this issue from a different perspective. Is the judiciary always right - what happened with Mockbel they let him go and it is costing the Australian Goverment Thousands to extradite him, our taxes being wasted. And who would be in the firing line if he (Hanef) were to be released and something tragic happened, the governement of the day would be crucified. No matter which stand the government take there will always be those in media who will criticise there action or inaction. And I can state this as fact, if you don't give the media something to write, then they will make it up, so don't believe everything you read. Look at this issue from a different perspective. Is the judiciary always right – what happened with Mockbel they let him go and it is costing the Australian Goverment Thousands to extradite him, our taxes being wasted. And who would be in the firing line if he (Hanef) were to be released and something tragic happened, the governement of the day would be crucified. No matter which stand the government take there will always be those in media who will criticise there action or inaction. And I can state this as fact, if you don’t give the media something to write, then they will make it up, so don’t believe everything you read.

]]> By: Rohan http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-10860 Rohan Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:54:10 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-10860 See this article: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html" rel="nofollow">10 steps to fascism</a> - it is a very interesting historical analysis and links in with some of the themes of this case See this article: 10 steps to fascism – it is a very interesting historical analysis and links in with some of the themes of this case

]]> By: Matt http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-10845 Matt Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:28:44 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-10845 ....which perhaps gives us the opportunity to look into their soul a little?... ….which perhaps gives us the opportunity to look into their soul a little?…

]]> By: geoff http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-10844 geoff Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:19:52 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-10844 Part of the problem is the inherent ambiguity in the Immigration Act. "Association" (or whatever the term is) is such a loose term that it effectively provides the Immigration minister of the time with free reign to do pretty much whatever he or she likes. Part of the problem is the inherent ambiguity in the Immigration Act. “Association” (or whatever the term is) is such a loose term that it effectively provides the Immigration minister of the time with free reign to do pretty much whatever he or she likes.

]]> By: Matt http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-10841 Matt Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:48:31 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-10841 aren't half the Labour party buddies with a jailed former WA Premier? Mind you, John Elliot was the president of the LIbs... I agree with you Geoff; let the guy have his day in court or let him out: Philip Ruddock was on the radio the other day saying "oh no, of course there's no presumption of guilt on him, and if we don't charge him then the public should all continue to presume he's innocent..." I think the puking sound in the background was the interviewer giving the honourable member some constituent feedback aren’t half the Labour party buddies with a jailed former WA Premier?
Mind you, John Elliot was the president of the LIbs…

I agree with you Geoff; let the guy have his day in court or let him out: Philip Ruddock was on the radio the other day saying “oh no, of course there’s no presumption of guilt on him, and if we don’t charge him then the public should all continue to presume he’s innocent…”

I think the puking sound in the background was the interviewer giving the honourable member some constituent feedback

]]> By: geoff http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-10788 geoff Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:11:05 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-10788 Well the official line is that you can get your visa rejected for "having or having had association with a person or organisation known to be involved in criminal activities", so I'll be starting the petition for Kevin Andrews to knock back George W. Bush's next application for a visa due to his associations with convicted felon Scooter Libby. Well the official line is that you can get your visa rejected for “having or having had association with a person or organisation known to be involved in criminal activities”, so I’ll be starting the petition for Kevin Andrews to knock back George W. Bush’s next application for a visa due to his associations with convicted felon Scooter Libby.

]]> By: Aurelius http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/comment-page-1/#comment-10787 Aurelius Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:04:51 +0000 http://www.geoffreport.com/wp/2007/07/16/national-disgrace/#comment-10787 If giving a phone card to a family member is a crime, can we deport Peter Reith somewhere?? If giving a phone card to a family member is a crime, can we deport Peter Reith somewhere??

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